Olivia wanted to climb this "mountain" so Brad took her up there. She was afraid to come down by herself, so Brad had to assist. He is gearing up for his annual hiking trip in a few weeks. He can hardly wait. He initially wanted Liv to go in the backpack carrier, which would be about equal weight of his backpack that he would take on his trip but she wanted to walk. I'd say we walked over a 1.5 miles. She did great and the weather was perfect.